Thursday, November 17, 2016

Complaints about recording of Oakham Town Council and Rutland County Council Meetings

There have been some complaints about the quality of recordings available on-line of our
local council meetings.

Oakham Town Council no longer publish any after they spent over £1000 with Melcom
to provide equipment over two year later they are not responding to letters from the council.

Rutland County Council refuse to video meetings and provide a audio recording often
interrupted when Councillors or officers don't switch on their microphones.

Rutland County Council has just installed new equipment to assist the hard of hearing
perhaps they could record from those microphones.

You would think that a council that wastes £3000 on scaffolding could afford to
purchase at least one HD web cam for a few hundred pounds to record meetings.

My recordings are as best as they can be, The camera I currently uses has a left and
right microphone and records  Video  at HD 1080 p

The person viewing can chose a which resolution they wish to view by clicking on
a icon and the bottom right hand corner of the youtube video.

Some users may not have set their youtube preferences, so youtube depending
on the internet speed they are using will often play at a lower quality especially
if using mobile data.

The video of the recent meeting when processing I did not turn up the audio.

There are other comments about editing. I don't edit I may publish one item in full
or an individual speaking.

Both Oakham Town Council and Rutland County Council have a protocol for
filming of meetings.

This is their protocol and not the law.

The law simple permits the recording of all public meetings.

When a person is asked not to record members of the public not taking part in
the meeting that is enforceable by law as we all know in UK photography of any
kind is permitted in any public place. A companies like BBC, ITV might depending
on the show they are making seek consent from the public to be included, we have
all seen public meetings held here in Oakham, like the MP's where the public is
shown on the BBC I think they might take the view then that if you are attending
a public meeting you are taking part. I have myself appeared on news items on local
BBC News when I have attended as a member of the public.

At the last Rutland County Council meeting I forgot to turn the camera towards
public speaker until the last person sitting behind the speakers were members
of the public not speaking, it can not be avoided.

It is also not unlawful to edit the video recordings obtained.

The protocol making people use the designated area or designed ? of at Oakham
Town Council. Is not a legal requirement.

If it was all those who recorded on their mobile phones etc at a public meeting
might find the area rather cozy.

Oakham Town Council recently extended their protocol to include Cllrs excluding the
clerk which is a very daft move purely because some Councillors don't want the public to
see them so that explains why I can no longer zoom into members at that council when
they are speaking.

This link is to a government report on their website. It gives the press and public bloggers
legal freedoms

Which Oakham Town Council mainly and in some cases Rutland County Council
attempt to restrict.


Press freedom boosted by new 'right to report'




















 Lidl  has not as far as I am aware been considered by RCC
it has been to OTC and they had  no objections.

OLDER
Why on Earth do Oakham Town Council and Rutland Country Council bother videoing their meetings? They do not focus on the individual speaking and you can barely tell what people are saying. Surely if you can't do it right, don't do it at all! The library issues I just gave up on, as also the Lidl planning application from a couple of weeks ago. What was the decision on Lidl? can anyone advise?
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Paul Beech Read the legislation on filming during meetings John Kennedy. That's why.
John Kennedy Paul I have neither time nor inclination to read rubbish like that, but if it can't be done properly, why bother? Waste of money
Paul Beech Take it up with the government, it has to be done by law. They instigated it. It clearly says that individuals cannot be focused on, which when you think about must seriously reduce the danger of personal abuse from whoever is recording. Not that tha...See more
John Kennedy Paul Beech So basically a "tick box" situation. We throw good money away. The speaker does not have to be in view, but surely if they had a microphone provided, you would be able to hear the debate. Do you know the result of the Lidl application?
Paul Beech No to your Lidl question, not interested.
Malcolm Palmer So what about the sound.
John Kennedy Exactly my point
Paul Beech What about the sound? What recording are you listening to?
John Kennedy Paul Beech the sound quality is appalling
Paul Beech Hello John Kennedy, Who's sound quality. Where are you getting from? Over.
John Kennedy Paul Beech from video posted on here
Paul Beech So was it from RCC or from another source? You know where I'm going with this surely? Was it an official recording?
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John Kennedy Paul Beech It was "the"other source
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Paul Beech Then what do you expect.
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Paul Beech John Kennedy, I've just gone onto RCC web site and the council meeting from Monday is there for you to listen to. The sound is clear and of good quality. Better with speakers or head phones. It is a dedicated system. Forget imposters and those that...See more
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Malcolm Palmer I had a look at the council site it was has bad the sound was no better.
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Paul Beech Really, something wrong there then. It is a digital recording so it must be you. Was this the link:https://soundcloud.com/rutl.../full-council-14-november-2016
Audio files from council meetings at Rutland…
SOUNDCLOUD.COM|BY RUTLANDCOUNCIL
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John Kennedy Paul Beech Paul, the clarity is much better, but parts of the discussion are blocked out when non councillors speak. I noted at the start of the article, it was made quite clear that outsiders could record the proceedings from the restricted area, but were NOT to record any members of the public. Does that mean anybody doing so is breaking the law? It is just I understand somebody did record members of the public.
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Paul Beech In effect no because it only refers to their image and not their voice. I'd have to read the legislation again because it's about 3 years since I last read it and there might be amendments I don't know about. I think you have to request to the authority, prior to the meeting, that you don't want to be recorded, either by camera or voice.
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Paul Beech The biggest issue is editing as it means that individuals, of a certain type, can then put out recordings changing the whole meaning of a statement. Not good.
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