Sainsbury Oakham, Oakham Town Council, Jim Harrison, GrumpyJag, Oakham People

Former Mayor and Ex Town Councillor Jim Harrison.

Calls to kick out Town Councillors.

Rather strange to think he would  post such a request on Oakham People.

I find it a little bit amusing that a man who resigned, when I became a councillor and I  called for the removal of some very awful councillors from the Town Council.

Many have gone and there will more to follow.

Now Mr Harrison is calling for the whole council to be removed for voting against the Sainsbury's;'application.

Mr Harrison has  also mentioned democracy.

What happened on Wednesday was laughingly the result of democracy that has failed.

None of the town councillors have a mandate from the public. Unelected by the people.

At Wednesdays meeting I heard comments so stupid, like it is not our job as town councillors to tell Sainsbury's how they should change their plans.

So please tell me, what is your role Oakham Town Council?

Spend Spend is your unacceptable role,

Finally you have woken up and admitted you are income led and not project led.

You have said you can not implement change before next years budget?

You don't communicate with the public.

I agree with and support Mr Harrsion's call on Oakham People and suggest one difference.

You should not be replaced, The council should be scrapped.

Whilst shopping in Tesco this evening I was stopped by a number of people who asked what is wrong with the Town  Council. I won't publish my full responses, just to say the question I asked why they did not
attend or express their wishes? They replied we did last time and we saw the way the idiots conducted
themselves. I remember that meeting well there was a lot of public present and Cllr Lucas chaired the meeting like a puppet from Spitting Image and as I attempted to speak at the council table as a councillor she told me to "shut my mouth" more than once horrible woman.

Good to see Mr Harrison exercising his right of freedom of expression,

Find out who voted aqainst the application then throw them off the council at the next election and replace them with people who will listen to what we are saying.
Democracy is a great thing-use it

By GrumpyJag at 14:44 on 26/10/12

Sainsbury Oakham Planning Application Rutland County Council

Sainsbury Oakham Planning Application Rutland County Council

Tonight no surprise the full council turned down the planning application.

Twice the chairman threatened to kick out the public for clapping speakers who supported the application.

This caused many people to walk out at each point.

The chairman agreed to be generous with timings. It was amusing to see Helen Briggs waving one minutes signs at the speakers who continued much to her amusement.

Sainsbury Oakham Rutland County Council Planning Meeting

Full Council meets tonight to discuss the Sainsbury's Planning application.

The meeting takes place in the Council Chamber at Rutland County Council on Monday 14 March from 6.00pm.

Seating is limited and places for members of the public will be allocated on a first come first served basis.

Last month (February), the application for a new Sainsbury’s store on the Oakham Bypass was rejected by the Development Control and Licensing Committee (DC&L).

However, the responsibility for making the final decision has now been passed to Full Council after four Councillors asked for the original decision to be reconsidered.

Sainsbury’s have submitted plans for a new foodstore (including cafeteria) at the junction of Lands End Way and the Oakham Bypass. The application also includes details of a car park (240 spaces), landscaping and petrol filling station.

Sainsbury's Oakham planning application has been 'referred up' to Full Council

The decision to refuse the Sainsbury's planning application has been 'referred up' to Full Council which means all 26 Councillors will now get the opportunity to make the final decision on the proposal for a new supermarket.

18 Conservatives the Council needs the money from Tresham from the sale of the college site, The site of the proposed Waitrose. I don't see there will be any change in the decision outcome. I hope Sainsbury will take this all the way to appeal and then this corrupt council can be exposed.

Rutland County Council needs the money from Tresham College to fund its post 16 Education. Something parents say Heather Wells Conservative has completely messed up.

It is interesting to see Rutland School teachers are not threatening strike action over academy status, it is clear they don't want this daft woman meddling in the education of the counties children.

The public discontent and anger was very visible when Rutland County Council and Tresham College nearly destroyed the post 16 education system here in Rutlland.


However, back to Sainsbury and the public anger for  is also huge! the responsibility for making the final decision has now been passed to Full Council after four Councillors (Gale, Oxley, Wainwright and Montgomery) asked for the original decision to be reconsidered.

Sainsbury’s have submitted plans for a new foodstore (including cafeteria) at the junction of Lands End Way and the Oakham Bypass. The application also includes details of a car park (240 spaces), landscaping and petrol filling station.

Members of the Development Control and Licensing Committee (DC&L) voted 4-3 and one tactical abstention by Conservative Terry King to turn down the application, with many acknowledging the high levels of public support, after consideration of a report from Planning Officers which recommended the supermarket plan was rejected for two main reasons.

The first reason was that the application site is designated for offices and/or industry warehousing in the Local Plan

Of course as we all know there is a shortage of office space all over the country. Uppinham has many empty office units so why build more here in Oakham?

The second reason was the out-of-town-centre location of the proposed supermarket.


Maybe they could demolish the Council offices and build there as Helen Briggs farms out more and more service to surrounding authorities I am not sure there will be a need for such a large site, she could control all the councils various departments located at Peterborough, Melton, Corby and Northampton.... from her garage or shed just up the road. What a saving that would be. But hang if all these other Councils are running Rutland why do we need her and all the other managers who are expected to work from home in the future.

Debate at the DC&L meeting focussed around alternative supermarket sites in the town, public support for the application, the potential impact on the town centre, loss of employment land, and the need for immediate jobs balanced against the long-term use of site.

This plot of land has been empty for many years as a member of the public shouted at the meeting, we need jobs now not maybe in ten years.

A record of the meeting with appear shortly on the council website.

A date for the meeting of Full Council that will consider the Sainsbury’s application will be announced shortly.

Maybe Tim Sainsbury could give Roger a call and we will see competition here in Oakham. The Conservatives have allowed Sainsbury to rip the heart out of the Worlds Second Garden City, Welwyn Garden City, so why not a little plot against a busy road.

Waitrose yes very nice store cater for the rich and poor, but advertising states: we have thousands of products the same as price Tesco. Why would anyone want another store offering the same as Tesco?

Here in Oakham we suffer from regional pricing as the large retailers like Tesco think we are all rich. If you pop to Tesco Melton you can spot the difference.

Oakham VIP's need to learn social skills and etiquette. Waitrose Whipper Inn Oakham

Rutland County Council turn down Sainsbury application does this mean Waitrose will be approved so they get their cash from Tresham College?

A special meeting of Rutland County Council's Licensing and Development committee.

Tuesday 22 February 2011

After a short presentation. Deputations were made from the public.

Deputy Head of Tresham College spoke first against the development.

Tresham would like would like to see the application turned down as they wish to sell their site to Waitrose so they can pay Rutland County Council the promised funds for Rutland's New College.

Former Councillor Alan Walters spoke for a group of residents and put a good case for the application. The public applauded, he was question by various Councillors and he was once again applauded. He spoke well.

The Chairman Mr Gale asked the public not to applaud and some replied “we have a right”!

Next Mr knight from Navitron / Burly Fires he spoke very briefly not objecting but ha concerns relating to highways issues.

To representatives from Sainsbury spoke

Councillors questions.

Mr Geer the councils planning officers attempted to give a presentation often interrupted by heckling from the public seat, eventually Mr Gale ask the public to allow the presentation to continue. He was heckled.

Mr Geer said the planning department recommended refusal

All the Conservative Councillors spoke against the development no surprise there.

The Application was refused after four Conservatives voted to turn down the application and the others voted to reject the refusal. Councillor King tactically abstained.

Afterwards there were scenes of jubilation between him and Chief Executive and a legal officer.

The public vented there anger some leaving the chamber shouting shame on you for supporting Tesco! How much are Tesco paying you.

It will be interesting to see if the application is forwarded to full council or is it the end of the matter.

SAINSBURY'S PLANNING APPLICATION OAKHAM TOWN COUNCIL

SAINSBURY'S

PLANNING APPLICATION

Oakham Town Council will be considering the
Planning Application by
Sainsbury's Supermarkets Limited
to build a new store off of Lands End Way
tonight August 4th 2010.
The meeting will start at 7.00pm and is open to the public.
Prior to the meeting, the plans are available for inspection
in the Town Council offices.


Members of the public are asked to note that the plans can be viewed from 10am - 1pm up until August 4th.

Comments slips will be provided and any comments will be forwarded to Rutland County Council along with any observations or recommendations from the Town Council.

One matter missing from the Council web site is: the public can come along and speak at the meeting.

'The final decision on whether planning permission will be granted will be made by Rutland County Council'
(so what is the point?)
 
No negative campaign carried out by the Town Council this time, it is is interesting to see the different way this application from Sainsbury has been handled, compared with the
Tesco application.
 
No public surgery.
 

I am rather pleased this did not happen, I don't think it was wise of Cllrs such as Dewis and Lucas to call it a consultation when they only pointed out their personal objections regarding Tescos proposal, to the steady flow of public who visited.
 

 
 
 

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Oakham Town Council meeting 4th August 2010

Oakham Town Council meet at the council chamber at 7pm Wednesday 4th August 2010

Public are welcome.

Amongst the agenda items to be considered by the full council are the following.

The damaged play equipment at Royce Recreation Ground

Sainsbury's Planning Application

A complaint made by Helen Pender against the Town Clerk at this point the public and press and likely to be excluded.

It is interesting to see Oakham Town Council is now implementing its complaints procedure even if we don't know what this is.

I gave up asking about my complaints.

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Sainsbury's Oakham

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Sainsbury has submitted it planning application for

a new Sainsbury's Foodstore, Oakham

Planning Application Ref: FUL/2010/0729

Sainsbury are proposing to build a new store,

off Lands' End Way,

They say it will provide shoppers with

more choice, as well as creating up to 300

full and part-time jobs for local people.

The planning application has been submitted to

Rutland County Council and was

registered on 7th  July 2010.

Plans for the new store features:

A 30,021 sq ft sales area, Predominantly a wide range

of Sainsbury's popular food products, a selected range

of non food items, improved pedestrian and public

transport links to the town centre and surrounding area,

a full landscaping scheme, sustainable features, 

including a biomass boiler and rainwater harvesting,

a recycling centre, a customer cafe, a cash machine and

a four pump petrol station.

The detailed plans can be viewed At the Council offices or

online by entering Planning Application  Ref: FUL/2010/0729

The Council is currently considering the application and undertaking

its own consultation exercise.

Residents are encouraged to provide feedback on the plans.

you can leave feedback at Rutland County Council's Website:

http://planningonline.rutland.gov.uk:777/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=45650

You can also write to the planning officer

dealing with the application:

Patrick Gear

Rutland District Council

Oakham

Rutland

LE15 6HP

pgear@rutland.gov.uk

You may like to write to your local paper

Eileen Green  (Editor),

Rutland Times,

South  Street,

Oakham,

LE15 6GB

rutland.editorial@jpress.co.uk

You can also get further information from

Sainsbury

Amy  Kershaw

Freephone 0800 975 5299

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Oakham Town Council Sainsbury V Tesco Planning

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Oakham Town Council had a private meeting with Sainsbury.

Why? Because at a later meeting 5th August they will consider a planning application.

Why are large companies given this extra time to consult councillors?

(image Tesco Poland)

A private individual can not command this time, 5 minutes during public deputations.

                                                                                    


Despite the town council duty to remain impartial it is is very clear this is not the case when it comes to the development of supermarkets.

Anti Tesco feeling was evident during  Oakham Town Council handling of Tesco's planning application.
The plans were displayed in the foyer and a public consultation was held and Cllr Dewis and Lucas clearly pointed out their objections to the public. This is not the purpose of a consultation.

The appears to be some confusion as to whether there should or will be a public consultation this time for the Sainsbury application.

Why have the plans not been displayed?

Dare I mention the Tory connection with Sainsbury?

Sainsbury has a good relationship with Tory Councils .

Just take a look at Welwyn Garden City  The worlds second garden city Tory Controlled for years and now work starts on the demolition of Sainsbury and surrounding shops to create a even bigger superstore infact 4 times the size in the centre of a Garden City! What would Ebenezer say? It's ok because they will be planting a few extra trees in the new car park I don't think so.

To be honest it does not really matter what Oakham Town Council decide because as the town Clerk explained last night none of them are trained in planning,  and he reminded the public of the following.

Planning Applications are received by the Town Council


The final decision on all planning maters affecting Rutland rests with the local planning authority which is Rutland County Council. However, in it's role as statutory consultee Oakham Town Council is asked for recommendations and observations on all planning applications affecting Oakham.

A member of the public commented what is the point of Oakham Town Council in this role?

I tend to agree views expressed by Cllrs are personal views, and we all have them, It would be good if Cllrs consulted the public and Cllrs could truly reflect the views of the people they serve.

I feel Oakham Town Council could be a stronger tool if members of the public gave Cllrs their views. As it stands I sense a group of people are just rubber stamping applications. Maybe they sense the planning authority know often the view expressed by the Town Council does not reflect the view of residents.

The councillors don't even get to see any letters of objections that may have been sent to the planning authority?

I will finish by saying  I look forward to shopping in the New Sainbury store and earning lots of Nectar Points.

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Sainsbury receives a warm reception.

Sainsbury receives a warm reception.

Friday saw the first public exhibition by Sainsbury Supermarket to show proposed plans and to receive comments form the public.

During my visit the public seemed to be welcoming the proposal to build a new store on the outskirts of Oakham.

At this point there were no objections had been left in the visitor book.

I was surprised to see the current plans do not included a green roof, Sainsbury was the first supermarket in the UK to fit a green roof on its superstore in Greenwich.

Sainsbury New plans for Oakham

• A 30,021sq ft (2,789sq m) sales area

• A wide range of popular Sainsbury's food products
• A limited range of non-food items
• A bakery and other fresh food counters
• A customer café
• Customer toilets with disabled and parent/child facilities
• A 246 space car park with dedicated disabled and parent/child spaces
• Covered cycle hoops and motorcycle parking
• A pick-up/drop-off point near the store entrance
• Shopfront trolley storage
• Cash machines
• A 4-pump petrol station and car wash
• A recycling centre
• Sympathetic landscaping

Site Plan  http://www.sainsburys-oakham.co.uk/siteplan.html

your views http://www.sainsburys-oakham.co.uk/